@spoletta Grofire is correct.
I would add that UO (developers inspiration) created a solo style game. Doing so invites group, guild and faction fighting/conquering play-styles. The opposite is not true with a group build type games. Build a guild game (Shadowbane & Crowfall come to mind) , there is no place for solo or small group type players.
I really enjoy the game, it has potential but the reliance on a person running a city/tech tree has proven to be onerous for this casual gamer.
This aged well.
As a casual gamer, with a few friends playing I was NOT excited about the current housing/plot model. Where Governors owning and maintaining a tech tree that controls what an individual puts on their plot of land and what they can/can't craft. It is why I spoke up about it early on in this thread and another. The game forces a player to rely on other players that you don't know to run a city because you don't have the time or manpower to do it yourself.
You rely on the Governor and his cronies through the tech-tree and upkeep to maintain the city. You could spend hours - building a house, forges, benches, loading up chests, bringing loot and resources back to the house only to have the city owner and guild running it abandon it completely. Like what has happened in a few cities already. It escalates people that game casually, within these areas to quit the game because they are stuck on a tech-tree-less plot buried in chests full of loot.
Build in another area you say? No thanks.
@spoletta Your last point is a good one. Housing is a safe spot which could pose problems for people fighting mobs near their house.
I am not sure why you continue to push against new ideas or inferring you know exactly what the devs thought process is. The game is still in Alpha, this is the time to push new ideas and hope they stick. Should I remind you of your post you flip-flopped on regarding the auto-run key that came to fruition? I think it would be great to give a Governor more leeway in taxation. It could cause an uprising, perhaps a seige, a tea party.
@spoletta I disagree. I see city and rural. That's it. I would like to see small clusters of housing in random spots, near mob zones, high traffic areas etc.
I support housing throughout the territory not just in urban and some of the designated rural settings. I would like to see spots located in advantageous locations for PKs, hermits, anti-socials, small guilds and PvErs.
Three tier housing system:
Urban (in the city)
Rural (unincorporated)
Country (sporadic locations outside rural areas in plot clusters of 3's 4's and 5's).
At the same time, allow the Governor the ability to tax each of these tiers differently (there should be a tax ceiling). If you have some pesky country folks terrorizing your citizens, tax accordingly. Also, allow the Governor of the territory to place "guards" around housing areas that attack reds, KOS players or grays. For example: Guards near a housing area where known pks are housed could provide to be irritating. I believe housing is one of the most sought after aspects of an MMO.
Note: Guards should not be invincible, just difficult and annoying to kill.
Theorycrafting rant off/.
FLea
I have seen those. I think my aforementioned ideas are good changes. Like auto-run, I hope theorycrafting on the forums successfully changes their mind or gives them ideas to make Fractured a better game.
FLea
Good idea. Place to log out in the wilderness.
I support housing throughout the territory not just in urban and some of the designated rural settings. I would like to see spots located in advantageous locations for PKs, hermits, anti-socials, small guilds and PvErs.
Three tier housing system:
Urban (in the city)
Rural (unincorporated)
Country (sporadic locations outside rural areas in plot clusters of 3's 4's and 5's).
At the same time, allow the Governor the ability to tax each of these tiers differently (there should be a tax ceiling). If you have some pesky country folks terrorizing your citizens, tax accordingly. Also, allow the Governor of the territory to place "guards" around housing areas that attack reds, KOS players or grays. For example: Guards near a housing area where known pks are housed could provide to be irritating. I believe housing is one of the most sought after aspects of an MMO.
Note: Guards should not be invincible, just difficult and annoying to kill.
Theorycrafting rant off/.
FLea
I cannot create a guild. Are there restrictions on this?
I am looking to find out what you think is an appropriate penalty for a player killer with (10) murders upon death. I would like to see your responses. Please do not respond to other people's perspective, but rather what you think would be a fair and balanced penalty for that player killer.
Question: What kind of penalty should a Player Killer (PK) have after dying with 10 murders counts?
Question: Do you intend to make a Player Killer (PK)?
Answer: I think the PK should perma-lose 5% of their health upon every death and undergo the current bounty/jail system that has been implemented.
Answer: Yes.
How about perma health loss? Right now, if a player dies they can sit by a forge/fire and regain their health loss. I think a great penalty would be that the player killer loses health permanently (10%, 20%, 30% debatable), which ultimately leads to re-rolling another character. This game is built around the commodity of time. When players are pk'd they ultimately lose time (gathering resources & crafting gear), when a pk dies their time in building a character will be lost.
Health loss is already part of the game, implementing it for a player character wouldn't require many changes.
I have read some great comments so far. It is incredibly hard to balance a pvp system and retain people that have no interest in it. Here is what I like so far:
Here is what I do NOT like:
Here are some suggestions:
This will eventually require that the person delete and re-roll another character. The game is built on the commodity of time. When a player that seeks to do good dies and loses weapons/armor/resources - they are losing time. When a PK has to to create another pvp-ready character - they are losing time. They will undoubtedly consider the options more careful when there is a measured penalty.
Thank you for the update.
A penalty for a PK on death or capture might include all or some of the following (I realize some are already implemented):
I am not a fan of the loot reduction for certain good/evil characters but I do think there needs to be some type of penalties. Thought I would put some ideas out there.
Thanks,
FLea
Okay, that's too bad. I think rares that have no impact on pvp or pve, add to a player run economy. I got into rare trading in UO and it was a lot of fun. I had something to spend my gold on and it was fun showing off the potted plants, open book, chess set in my house in UO. Paintings, vaces, plants, architecture pieces, rare blue prints (of furniture) from common to rare would be a great addition to the game - notwithstanding the pvp and mechanics are completed and in place.
Thanks for the info.
FLea
I searched and did not see much discussion on this topic. Have treasure maps ever been discussed by the Fractured team?
Thanks.
FLea
