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Like seriously can yall post the patch notes when you announce the patch. And why are you calling it 'emergency maintenance'? Whats the emergency?

this is from the alphas and has not been updated since, just in case anyone was wondering.

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@Prometheus From Korgath#7058 via Discord

Getting the prestige with the houses fixed is priority - they might find they need to check each towns buildings and set the prestige manually given the amounts added on building and deleting seem to be different.

As for the space - that's fine that we don't need walls but having the road around the border, which the Human towns get for 'free', is a huge QOL when trying to fit residential plots. If you take our town for example we could have as many as 30 or more 2x2 paved roads accommodating plots that could potentially have been served by having a Paved Road border around the town. That reduces our usable plots for stuff other than roads from 1600 to 1480. So yes, whilst it isn't crippling it does still need to be recognized that as far as space is concerned the Terra towns are at a distinct disadvantage.

For the farms - If the farms are suppose to have a little path for A.E.S.T.H.E.T.I.C.S then that's fine but they are clearly 2x2 in size as I demonstrated when you place one after another it only takes an additional 2 tiles for each one you place. The same applies to the packaging stations as well.

I don't see how moving the snapping point so they actually take 2x2 tiles when they are 2x2 in size would impact on the fact there's a little grass between them, if that was the case then the grass between them wouldn't show when you place one next to the other. I think either have them be 2x2 or 3x3 so it's at least easy to plan how many fields can fit into a given space and if that means increasing them to actually tile in a 3x3 pattern then just increase the yield to account for the fact we can't fit as many.

I'm happy that we may be getting a resolution for the private plots. At least this gives us a bit more flexibility with rearranging the town and can keep it fresh with active players.

please not advanced smelters bugged again. pls....

@Prometheus @OlivePit @spoletta @Arcahem @Kralith @LordSkykal
Let us discuss

The following was written, extensively researched, and tested by Korgath. I am posting as he is unable to log into the forum.

Space:

Towns on Terra have different amounts of usable space compared to towns in Aerhen. Our town on Terra, for example, has a 40x40 grid of usable space. Towns in Aerhen seem to have 48x48 of usable space. Of that 48x48 space for Aerhen towns some of that is used up by walls and roads around the perimeter, reducing the usable space to match the Terra towns at 40x40. The problem however is that whilst Aerhen towns have the same space for buildings and plots they get the additional road+wall around the perimeter meaning it's significantly easier to place buildings and residential plots on the outskirts of the town as they will always have a nearby road to snap to. For Terra we would have to place temporary roads to then place the building or plot and then remove the road afterwards.

In future I can see this being an even bigger problem as I think it's fair to assume that placing a temp road so you can put down a plot only to then remove the road is not exactly an intended feature. I imagine this will be patched at some point to prevent the deletion of the road or if it is deleted that any adjacent plots/buildings become invalidated/unusable.

I suggest that the towns on Terra are reworked and increased to 44x44 so that we may also benefit from a perimeter road without significantly reducing the usable space of the town, as having a road currently would limit Terra towns to 36x36 of usable space which is an almost 20% reduction in total usable area.

Prestige:

Towns in Aerhen seem to have no issues accumulating the necessary prestige required to maintain a high rank. For example the town of HellZ Kyrpt currently has a total prestige, at Rank 15, of 2725. This is split between it's Public buildings such as the market place and bank and the 16 residential plots currently allocated.

Those residential plots are a bit of a problem for towns on Terra as we seem to get different buildings and prestige associated with them. In addition it appears that the UI doesn't show the accurate building layout nor do the buildings with the wrong layout on the UI appear to have what should be the correct Prestige associated with them.

From looking at the above we can see that on Aerhen the below values are the most prestige that can be obtained from a residential plot of each size.

2x2 = 50
3x3 = 75
4x4 = 140
5x5 = 150

In comparison on Terra it looks more like this, according to the UI.

2x2 = 50
3x3 = 75
4x4 = 100
5x5 = 100

Now after testing we can see that the larger buildings can grant more than 100 prestige which indicates this is just a tooltip/UI issue. The main problem though is that on Aerhen and Myr the 3x5 T building is available which gives the best prestige along with having a large amount of outside space remaining on the plot. That space can accommodate, amongst other things, charcoal pits which none of the larger buildings can do on Terra.

Please at a minimum can the correct values be updated on the UI and the 3x5 T building be made available on Terra?

Bugs and other issues:

Farming plots & Packaging Stations

Farming plots don't seem to snap to the same grid locations as all other buildings or plots. If we take a residential plot and use the 'tiles' on this as a reference you can see that other buildings and things like Paved Roads snap within this 'tile' arrangement. A paved road, for example, takes up a 2x2 space and it could be placed one after the other with no overlap so regardless of how many paved roads are placed they will always be placed in a way which means any single road will always require the same 2x2 tiles of space.

Farming Plots and Packaging Stations seem to not fit within this tile arrangement. When placing them they seem to be out of position by ~0.25 tiles of space as can be seen in this screenshot.

If we assume we have a 5 paved roads going in the North East (relative to the minimap) and on the 5th road we start placing more going in the South East direction. This should allow for 8 tiles of space alonside the paved road before we meet the new road going South East. I can fit a market place or bank in there along with a 3x3 residential plot and it all aligns perfectly proving we do indeed have 8 tiles of space. When we add farming plots to the situation though things change.

In that same 8 tiles of space we can only place 3 farming plots. You would think this would either take 9 tiles, which it clearly doesn't, or take 6 tiles. But at the space left over between the third farming plot and the road heading South East we cannot fit another Paved Road or a 2x2 residential plot meaning we have less than 2 tiles of space between the existing road and the last farming plot.

We can prove that the farming plots are indeed 2x2 however by placing a number of them one after another. As an example let's say we have 6 farming plots placed in a row and walk over them with a paved road we can see that on every farming plot the paved road snaps to the exact same position relative to the farming plots. If the farming plots were simply 2.25 tiles in space then we would see the paved road snap to a slightly different location on each farming plot until on the 4th farming plot it was snapping one full tile behind where it initially started from.

This leaves the only sensible conclusion that the farming plots (and packaging stations which I also tested) are snapping out of alignment with the rest of the building system. These two items conveniently share the same subcategory (Farming) on the City & Building > City building menu.

Plot Ownership

We had a player who has been active for a long time suddenly disappear with no warning. We had granted them a 5x5 residential plot and they built a temporary 2x2 building which was to later be deleted and a larger building created instead.

Since the player has left we are now unable to do anything with this location. We cannot change owner nor can we remove the plot. Governors and Vice-Govs should be able to do this, no questions asked not to mention it can potentially be abused by bad actors to try stop towns from achieving prestige required for rank.

Carpenter building

Our town on Terra had a Carpenter shop which was unable to be completed due to a bug. This has subsequently been removed, visually at least, but although the game indicates we can build here whenever we try to do so the building or plot does not place. I assume on the backend somewhere the game still sees the old building.

In Summary there are a few differences in the towns on Terra when compared to Aerhen leading to a lack of quality of life. One difference comes with a loss of 20% of the towns usable area in order to correct. That combined with issues surrounding poor information supplied by the UI for building residential houses, poor alignment on farming plots and the inability for Governors to revoke land ownership (along with phantom building bugs) puts unnecessary stress on those running towns and could, given enough coincidental issues, cause significant progress to be lost as it may be deemed better to abandon a town and start over.

@Veeshan at least 1 spot would be major qol. but so would 10 spots on the bar... seriously would settle for very little at this point xD...

Be safe @muker . Thank you for all you've done for Fractured.

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Also, there will be a massive overhaul to the tutorial and where you go and what you do immediately after the tutorial. I feel like that was important to note, as the tutorial kind of sucks if you are brand new to the game.

The last thing. The 'Black Map Bug', is a result of old gpus. So old, in fact, that a group of game designers couldn't find an old enough graphics card to reproduce it. So they are gonna ebay until they get one.

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ongoing problem since beta began. one of the things that is overlooked and only affects a small percentage of players. hopefully will be addressed soon. sorry it has happened to you

also it counts as crush damage. with the inherent chance to stun

So kill stealing isn't against the rules. Sure, its a sh*tty thing to do, but its always gonna happen. The biggest issue is, party KP sharing is completely broken, and that also means, if your party and another party are tagging the same mobs, there is the potential for no one at all to get KP. It was far better before, and whatever changed needs to be reverted or reworked. What's the point of partying up if you don't share KP. There isn't one and it feels really bad...

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@grofire Well good luck with I guess. I will be here helping players and not being an entitled c*nt. All the best to you.