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    • RE: Legends need to change

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      (...)any smart player, be it PvP or PvE, would be flagged blue when they're doing serious PvE, because there is simply no incentive to be neutral/red when doing PvE(...)

      Wouldn't the incentive be the content of PvP?
      You have little to loose as neutral player (backpack items), but supposedly plenty to gain (content wise). If you need items/in-game gain as incentive for PvP, isn't that a sign that PvP content is lacking? There's no/little permanent item gain in MOBAs like LoL and DotA2, the joy's the match, not what you keep after the match.

      The problem (in my humble opinion) is, similar to what PvE players face when forced into non-consensual PvP, they have far higher odds on a negative outcome. For the PvP player grinding in PvE it's 'simply' the disadvantage of not being specifically equipped for PvP and not initializing battle (attacker's advantage). For the average PvE player the odds are stacked even further against them due to a lack in PvP training/skill.

      @Logain said in Legends need to change:
      (...)When I started talking to players though I understood why they didn't. They just lost trust in the game(...)

      So, how many of them stated that they would return if Legends would be announced in advance?
      Your prediction with raids has been off, couldn't your prediction with Legends be off as well?
      The disadvantage is, there's a risk to your suggestions. If these don't manage to get a large quantity of new/old PvP players, but scare off the few remaining PvE players, there's serious financial consequences for the studio/game.

      posted in Discussions & Feedback
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    • RE: Legends need to change

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      (...)it is illogical to think that they will all suddenly start playing at the same time(...)

      Didn't they all start playing at the beginning of the beta, like the thousand(s) PvE player that did?

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      (...)when they stay, more of them will start trickling in(...)

      They didn't stay.

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      (...)the world itself is big, so roaming for a long time just in the hopes of finding pvp will make your game less of a choice compared to games where players know where to go to get into the action(...)

      This is certainly a good argument for your cause. But it seemed that 'red players' didn't have much trouble finding 'victims' (at least I never heard that as a complaint, it was the unfair drop situation). So if PvP players can find PvE players to engage with, but they can not find PvP players to engage with, and both inhabit the same space, wouldn't that imply a difference in numbers for both populations?

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      (...)fighting over resources, which is something people would have more incentives to fight over, instead of just roaming around for pvp.

      Like raids on cities? That are enabled now and would be a set time and a set place?
      They should classify as everything you've advertised would draw PvPers back in.
      How many people have participated on how many raids this week?

      posted in Discussions & Feedback
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    • RE: Legends need to change

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      @Logain Not sure why you're bringing this "PvP" player versus "PvE" player mentality(...)

      I wasn't trying to bring a PvP vs PvE player mentality, but point out a flaw in your argument.
      You advertise your suggestion as being able to '(...)draw players back in(...)'.
      Since announcing legends on summon doesn't change anything on the gameplay mechanics, the conclusion would be that PvP isn't lacking in mechanics, but in availability/odds of happening.
      If this was the case, the PvP crowd could easily fix this by itself through flagging neutral and keeping flagged neutral, which is basically the same as playing as a Demon on Tartaros.
      If there is a massive PvP crowd (as you claim), all of which are flagged neutral, you have high PvP availability/high odds to encounter a PvP fight. In which case, you don't need additional circumstances to advertise PvP, because PvP is the content anyway.
      Which means that one or more of your axioms has to be wrong.

      posted in Discussions & Feedback
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    • RE: Legends need to change

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      (...)introduce these kind of changes to draw players back in.

      I'm curious, you seem to suggest that, in order to enjoy playing Fractured, 'PvP players' need to be able to fight 'PvE players', otherwise, couldn't the PvP player that enjoys fighting PvP players simply flag neutral and enjoy their playstile? Basically, playing Demon world, but on the Human planet?

      posted in Discussions & Feedback
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    • RE: Legends need to change

      @Rife said in Legends need to change:

      Right now legends are not really a feasible PvPvE event(...)

      I'm curious, since you're treating legendary creatures entirely from the PvP aspect of PvPvE (in this discussion), how do you suppose that works out on Arboreus?
      Shouldn't it have legendary creatures? Or should they be considered easier since there's no PvP in the PvPvE component? Should they be summoned different (which is going to have been reworked anyway, since neutral doesn't work for beatsman)?

      posted in Discussions & Feedback
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