Oh I know I promised not to post anymore...... but you just proved your lack of any interest in anyone other than yourself or those that agree with you.....
" overanalyzing fun is probably a sure way to ruin it." lmao, you think this is 'over analysing'?
i do feel bad for you then. Have I insulted Stacy? if I have then thats
Her issue, not mine.
I'm a Man ..... Hilarious, oh and you're spelling is getting worse with every post, calm down.
Last post ... I promise.
@Zori Wow ..... triggered much ?
You have a great knack of cherry picking the negative in every post and ignoring everything else, I'm done trying to have a debate with a such closed minded individual as yourself, feel free to respond, but this will you will be pleased to read will be my last post on this thread.
Chill out mate.
@Zori "cause you respond not to understand the other persons perspective but to interject with your own." (its because) yes I'm also in the spelling police... sorry !
It's called a difference of opinion.
I have at no point said you are wrong, or needed to dispute any of your theories, this is where you appear to have turned left at the lights instead of continuing on, I'm not saying these analysis of peoples choices are not relevant, they clearly have some valuable use in gaming development...... never disputed.
so maybe it's you reading between the lines and assuming this is what I am saying ?
What I have said on a few posts, that you continue to ignore, is that there is an element that is not represented by the test or it's results. That element "fun" is not a combination of 4 elements it's "more" and that for me is the part of the equation, If all games designed around theories and surveys, which as you have stated they are ?, then what makes one stand above another ? if not "The fun factor" ?
But dismissing 50 years of "Gaming" not breathing is condescending and "wrong", I have a valid opinion based on why and how I game in the real world, not on a questionnaire or any results that may have.
This was the basis for my comments, if you do not agree, that's fine I have no issue with either that or you personally, but if you continue to dismiss other peoples views on a subject, it's not them who will lack the ability to learn.
@Zori This was my first post on this thread.
@Stacy555 said in Bartle's Taxonomy and this game.:
I read the first 6 lines and realised this was stating the obvious ...... and trying to make it sound complicated. It's "a game" ..... guess what I do with it ...... "Play".
No offence intended, but do we really need a theory for playing ?
And now I have ticked the boxes, what does The Bartle test tell me ? "Oh no ...... It states the obvious", as I said why do I need a theory or test ??
The Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology
You are 67% Explorer
What Bartle says:
Explorers delight in having the game expose its internal machinations to them. They try progressively esoteric actions in wild, out-of-the-way places, looking for interesting features (ie. bugs) and figuring out how things work. Scoring points may be necessary to enter some next phase of exploration, but it's tedious, and anyone with half a brain can do it. Killing is quicker, and might be a constructive exercise in its own right, but it causes too much hassle in the long run if the deceased return to seek retribution. Socialising can be informative as a source of new ideas to try out, but most of what people say is irrelevant or old hat. The real fun comes only from discovery, and making the most complete set of maps in existence.
You are also:
53% Socialiser
40% Achiever
40% Killer
@Roccandil I thank you for your support, but I have yet to be successfully bullied in RL or on a Forum, glad to see an educated mind take interest in both sides of a discussion.
@Zori I am confused by the vast array of assumptions you have made about me in my absence.
You are clearly offended by my age .... you seem to have fixed on that as a specific point of interest in several posts, so first the bad news "Still breathing".
And now onto a few of your assumptions and indeed misquotes.
You had issue with me not putting the above in context, what context is needed ? this was a direct response to your comment, I did say it was insulting ... not that I felt insulted,
Quote "Hope you understand that we're not living in 1960's or 1970's anymore where we just do things for the sake of doing things, we do things to understand them and relate them to the bigger picture."
The concept of time has not passed me by (excuse the pun), But do you really hold the belief that nothing significant happened in the 60's and 70's ? Science and the bigger picture is not a Millennial exclusive concept.
This.
I'm 63 years old and have been a Gamer since Pong's release in 1972.
I have continuously played, every conceivable type and genre of game, since that first day in the local arcade, not once have I "played", or continued to play based on a theory or a set of constructs that I needed to follow, due to some college graduate who has nothing better to do than "theorise".
I fully understand the need for games developers to follow certain guidelines (Theories) to make a game attractive and hopefully a pleasurable / playable experience, which in turn will stand the test of time, for at the very least a profitable outcome.
But as a "Gamer" first and foremost I need fun, followed by a sense of achievement, no matter that in the greater picture is actually meaningless, this is then taken to the next level by social involvement, welcome to the land of MMO.
I played WoW from day 2, I decided the lagfest of day 1 would take away from my "Fun", over the next 8 years I quit 4 times, not due to the theory or concept the game was based on being incorrect, simply because it stopped being "Fun", being in a social group and taking part in Raids and chasing that next piece of "Uber" gear, became a drudge, so I walked away, only to return when I felt there was a chance the "Fun" would return.
So back to 1972, Have you played Pong lately with a couple of mates and a few beers ??.....................Soooooo much fun, and not a "Theory" in sight, if it ain't fun ..... no one "Plays"
Just to add an apology for the use of speech marks "It's a bad habit".
Finally, this is not a rant, I am calmly sitting at my keyboard with no intention of becoming a Warrior, (once a Ranger, always a Ranger.), I shall take the test and see why science thinks I am a gamer, (I already know), but one lesson in life that you should learn is that talking down to someone who does not agree with your idea, is not the way to change their mind, Been playing games a lot recently, retirement is awesome, having fun ....... still breathing.
@Zori You call it filling the gap, I call it "Diversity"....... And saying I'm not a dedicated gamer after nearly 50 years, is not only incorrect, but pretty insulting.
Oh dear lord .... a Gamer motivation profile .... damn I'd rather spend my time choosing a hairstyle that looks good in blue.... Motivation profile ... Really ?? ROTFFL !!!!!!
I'm 63 years old and have been a Gamer since Pong's release in 1972.
I have continuously played, every conceivable type and genre of game, since that first day in the local arcade, not once have I "played", or continued to play based on a theory or a set of constructs that I needed to follow, due to some college graduate who has nothing better to do than "theorise".
I fully understand the need for games developers to follow certain guidelines (Theories) to make a game attractive and hopefully a pleasurable / playable experience, which in turn will stand the test of time, for at the very least a profitable outcome.
But as a "Gamer" first and foremost I need fun, followed by a sense of achievement, no matter that in the greater picture is actually meaningless, this is then taken to the next level by social involvement, welcome to the land of MMO.
I played WoW from day 2, I decided the lagfest of day 1 would take away from my "Fun", over the next 8 years I quit 4 times, not due to the theory or concept the game was based on being incorrect, simply because it stopped being "Fun", being in a social group and taking part in Raids and chasing that next piece of "Uber" gear, became a drudge, so I walked away, only to return when I felt there was a chance the "Fun" would return.
So back to 1972, Have you played Pong lately with a couple of mates and a few beers ??.....................Soooooo much fun, and not a "Theory" in sight, if it ain't fun ..... no one "Plays"
Just to add an apology for the use of speech marks "It's a bad habit".
@Gothix Yellow card for Star wars reference, one more and your out, be careful.
I read the first 6 lines and realised this was stating the obvious ...... and trying to make it sound complicated. It's "a game" ..... guess what I do with it ...... "Play".
No offence intended, but do we really need a theory for playing ?